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RedC/Paddy Power – constituency projections

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As I indicated the other week, I’ve been developing a template report for the constituency round-up. I hadn’t expected this to be needed for another couple of weeks, but needs must ….. if you see anything that needs tidying up please let me know so I can catch it for future reports.

There’s also a lot of in-depth stuff I want to look at in the national figures, I’ll not get that done this evening but will by tomorrow evening. But this should be enough to be getting on with for now….

Carlow-Kilkenny (5 seats)
FF 47.7% 3 seats – John McGuiness, Bobby Aylward, MJ Nolan
FG 29.6% 1 seat – Phil Hogan
LP 9.4%
GP 8.0% 1 seat- Mary White
SF 3.8%
OTH 1.6%

Local developments:
John McGuiness has distanced himself from the FF party, and his colleague MJ Nolan has announced that he will not run in 2011.

Likely candidates:
FF: McGuiness, Aylward + a Carlow candidate
FG: Hogan, John-Paul Phelan, Pat Deering
LP: Anne Phelan, Des Hurley
GP: White
SF: Kathleen Funchion, John Cassin
OTH: Conor McLiam (ULA)

Projection based on poll
FF 24.1% (1 seat)
FG 38.1% (2 seats)
LP 15.6% (1 seat)
GP 8.2%
SF 10.9% (1 seat)
OTH 3.1%

Assuming a good internal SF transfer, I see former Euro-hopeful Funchion, who polled creditably in ’09, taking one FF seat, FG taking another, and LP’s Phelan taking the GP seat (insofar as one can hypothecate thse things). Should they not split it well, it’ll be between FG3 or LP2, depending on who has split their vote most advantageously, but at this stage I’d call it SF.

Cavan-Monaghan (5 seats)
2007 result
FF 37.8% 3 seats – Rory O’Hanlon (C.C.), Brendan Smith, Margaret Conlon
FG 31.2% 1 seat – Seymour Crawford
LP 1.2%
GP 3.6%
SF 20.0% 1 seat – Caoimhghin O’Caolain
OTH 6.2%

Local developments:
Reverts to 5 elected seats as Ceann Comhairle is now from Louth. O’Hanlon and Crawford are retiring. The intentions of former Indo/Hospitals TD Paudge Connolly are unclear.

Likely candidates:
FF Smith, Conlan, possibly +1
FG Joe O’Reilly, Heather Humphries, possibly +1
LP Liam Hogan + possibly AN Other in Monaghan
SF O’Caolain + Kathryn Reilly
OTH Paudge Conolly, Johnathon Rainey

Projection based on poll
FF 14.1% (1 seat)
FG 35.4% (2 seats)
LP 4.7%
GP 2.8%
SF 33.7% (2 seats)
OTH 9.3%

FF hold on to one seat, probably Smith at the expense of Connolly. Reilly makes a gain, with Humphries holding Crawfords seat.

Clare (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 44.0% 2 seats – Timmy Dooley, Tom Kileen
FG 35.2% 2 seats – Joe Carey, Pat Breen
LP 1.6%
GP 5.1%
SF 3.4%
OTH 10.7%

Local developments:
Popular FF TD and Defence Minister Tony Kileen is retiring. The intentions of former IND FF TD James Breen who lost his seat in 2007 are unclear, but I’m assuming that he’s running. Former Independent MEP candidate Michael McNamara who polled 10,000 Clare votes in 2009 has joined the LP and will be seeking a seat.

Likely candidates:
FF Dooley +1?
FG Carey, Breen, + AN Other
LP Michael McNamara
GP Brian Meaney
SF A Prior
OTH James Breen, Jim Connolly

Projection based on poll
FF 19.3% 1 seat
FG 42.9% 2 seats
LP 8.4%
GP 5.0%
SF 9.4%
OTH 15.1% 1 seat

A scramble for Kileen’s seat, with it falling to Indo Breen on these figures, from McNamara who I have pulling ahead of SF on GP transfers.

Cork E (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 38.0% 2 seats – Michael Ahern, Ned O’Keefe
FG 30.9% 1 seat – David Stanton
LP 20.9% 1 seat – Sean Sherlock
GP 2.9%
SF 6.8%
OTH 0.5%

Local developments:
A population of c. 4,250 moves out for CNC. Both LP and FG will be hopeful of picking up a FF seat here. Ned O’Keefe has moved to put some distance between himself and the Govt, and this could see Michael join Bertie, Dermot (and Noel?) Aherns in the ranks of former TDs

Likely candidates:
FF Ahern, O’Keefe
FG Stanton, Tom Barry, Pa O’Driscoll
LP Sherlock, John Mulvihill Snr
SF Sandra McLennan
OTH Paul O’Neill

Projection based on poll
FF 14.7% 1 seat
FG 34.5% 1 seat
LP 34.1% 2 seats
GP 2.4%
SF 12.5%
OTH 1.8%

FF drop a seat, with LP picking it up, in part on SF transfers, which also help (FF1 nudge ahead of FG2).

Cork NC (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 35.70% 2 seats – Billy Kelleher, Noel O’Flynn
FG 25.60% 1 seat – Bernard Allen
LP 12.30% 1 seat – Kathleen Lynch
GP 3.60%
SF 8.20%
OTH 12.60%

Local developments:
Boundary revisions see the new voters from Cork E (above) and also a transfer of a population of c.4,300 from Cork NW, making it a slightly more rural constituency. Noel O’Flynn has attempted to distance himself from the govt. Lynch has a strong running mate in John Gilroy, who may poll ahead of her.

Likely candidates:
FF Kelleher, O’Flynn
FG Allen, Pat Burton
LP Lynch, Gilroy
SF Johnathon O’Brien
ULA/SP Mick Barry

Projection based on poll
FF 4.2%
FG 35.1% 2 seats
LP 24.0% 1 seat
GP 2.6%
SF 15.3% 1 seat
OTH 18.8%

FF lose both seats, with one going to FG, and the other to the winner of a scramble between LP2, SF and SP. It looks like SF to me on these figures, but very tight and could go to any of them, even if there is no movement from these FPV figures.

Cork NW (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 53.05% 2 seats – Michael Moynihan, Batt O’Keefe
FG 38.42% 1 seat – Michael Creed
LP 4.91%
GP 3.62%

Local developments:
Batt O’Keefe may be considering retirement

Likely candidates:
FF Moynihan, O’Keefe
FG Creed, Derry Canty, Aine Collins
LP Martin Coughlan
SF Des O’Grady

Projection based on poll
FF 26.1% 1 seat
FG 48.7% 2 seats
LP 14.1%
GP 3.5%
SF 4.2%
OTH 3.4%

FG take a seat from FF, with LP too far behind to pull them in, even with SF and GP transfers.

Cork SC (5 seats)
2007 result
FF 44.28% 2 seats – Michael Martin, Michael McGrath
FG 28.41% 2 seats – Simon Coveney, Deirdre Clune
LP 9.25% 1 seat – Ciaran Lynch
GP 8.37%
SF 5.11%
OTH 4.57%

Local developments:
Former GP Cllr Chris O’Leary is the SF candidate this time out

Likely candidates:
FF Martin, McGrath
FG Clune, Coveney, Jerry Buttimer
LP Lynch, Paula Desmond
GP Dan Boyle
SF O’Leary

Projection based on poll
FF 9.9%
FG 39.5% 2 seats
LP 23.0% 2 seats
GP 7.8%
SF 12.8% 1 seat
OTH 7.0%

One FF seat definitely gone, and the second is up for grabs, and on these figures they’d lose both, with SF getting a seat by a decent margin, and Paula Desmond taking the second, although FG3 would also fancy their chances on these figures if they split their vote extremely well and LP split theirs badly.

Cork SW (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 42.60% 1 seat –Christy O’Sullivan
FG 36.00% 2 seats – Jim O’Keefe, PJ Sheehan
LP 9.60%
GP 6.70%
SF 5.10%

Local developments:
FG’s 2 TDs – Jim O’Keefe and PJ Sheehan are retiring

Likely candidates:
FF O’Sullivan + Denis O’Donovan
FG Jim Daly, Noel Harrington
LP Michael McCarthy
SF Paul Hayes
OTH David McInerney

Projection based on poll
FF 18.7%
FG 39.9% 2 seats
LP 22.1% 1 seat
GP 6.2%
SF 11.2%
OTH 1.8%

LP take the FF seat, and FG take both the seats of their retirees, although they need transfers from SF to do it (strange times indeed, but I believe they’d get them)

Donegal NE (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 50.3% 2 seats – Neal Blaney, Jim McDaid
FG 22.6% 1 seat – Joe McHugh
LP 1.8%
GP 1.4%
SF 17.5%
OTH 6.5%

Local developments:
Jim McDaid has retired. Former Indo, Cllr Jimmy Harte, has joined LP and will be their candidate. 4 electoral divisions (pop of 2,351) in the former Stranorlar Rural district are being transfered to South West.

Likely candidates:
FF Blaney, Keaveney, +AN Other
FG McHugh
LP Harte
SF Padraig MacLoughlain
OTH Ryan Stewart

Projection based on poll
FF 22.9% 1 seat
FG 28.0% 1 seat
LP 9.7%
GP 1.1%
SF 27.6% 1 seat
OTH 10.6%

As predicted by most punters, I think, McDaid’s seat goes to SF.

Donegal SW (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 50.5% 2 seats – Mary Coughlan, Dinny McGinlay
FG 23.0% 1 seat – Pat “The Cope” Gallagher
LP 2.8%
GP 1.5%
SF 21.2%
OTH 1.0%

Local developments:
Gallagher has gone to the EP, and SF’s Pearse Doherty won the by-election by a country mile. McGinley is rumoured to be retiring. As already mentioned, rural Stranorlar districts are moved from North East

Likely candidates:
FF Coughlan, Brian O’Domhnaill
FG Barry O’Neill
LP Frank McBrearty
SF Doherty
OTH Thomas Pringle, Ann Sweeney

Projection based on poll
FF 17.0% 1 seat
FG 25.7% 1 seat
LP 9.7%
GP 1.1%
SF 33.6% 1 seat
OTH 12.8%

On these figures, it would be close, and I ran the count projection 3 times. On balance, I think FF would just hold on if these were the FPVs, but by a very small margin, and would be elected probably beating Pringle, but without reaching the quota. Very very close, though, and depending on how the SF transfers pan out it could go either way.

Dublin C (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 44.50% 2 seats – Bertie Ahern, Cyprian Brady
FG 9.50%
LP 12.60% 1 seat – Joe Costello
GP 5.80%
SF 9.20%
OTH 18.50% 1 seat Tony Gregory

Local developments:
Bertie Ahern is no longer Taoiseach and not expected to run. Tony Gregory died, and Maureen O’Sullivan won the by-election by a comfortable margin

Likely candidates:
FF Brady, Mary FitzPatrick
FG Paschal Donoghue
LP Costello, Aine Clancy
SF Mary-Lou McDonald
OTH Maureen O’Sullivan, Cieran Perry

Projection based on poll
FF 4.3%
FG 16.1% 1 seat
LP 32.2% 1 seats
GP 4.3%
SF 15.9% 1 seat
OTH 27.2% 1 seat

FF collapse, and on these figures, Donoghue’s dream finally comes true (although by a very narrow margin…). The other FF seat is taken by Mary-Lou. Clancy misses out by less than 1%, and I’d also look out for Perry who may surprise everyone here if he runs.

Dublin Mid-West
2007 result
FF 33.0% 1 seat – John Curran
FG 12.0%
LP 10.9% 1 seat – Joanna Tuffy
GP 10.8% 1 seat – Paul Gogarty
SF 9.3%
OTH 11.5% 1 seat- Mary Harney

Local developments:
Mary Harney is expected to retire. Ex-Indo cllr Derek Keating has joined FG ticket with fellow 2007 hopeful Frances FitzGerald. LP have selected former Mayor Robert Dowds to their ticket alongside sitting TD Joanna Tuffy, and SF candidate will be former Belfast City Cllr Eoin O’Broin. Other than that, not much….

Likely candidates:
FF Curran
FG Keating, Fitzgerlad
LP Tuffy, Dowds
GP Gogarty
SF O’Broin
OTH Gino Kenny (ULA), Michael Finnegan (WP)

Projection based on poll
FF 7.7%
FG 26.2% 1 seat
LP 28.6% 2 seats
GP 9.9%
SF 17.1% 1 seat
OTH 10.5%

FG, LP and SF to take a Govt seat each from FF, GP and Mary Harney.

Dublin N (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 42.1% 2 seats – Michael Kennedy, Dara O’Brien
FG 14.3% 1 seat – James Reilly
LP 9.6%
GP 16.7% 1 seat- Trevor Sargant
SF 2.7%
OTH 14.9%

Local developments:
A large chunk of Swords (pop c. 12,800) has left for Dublin West, and another area around Portmarnock (pop. c. 9,000) goes to NE, making life harder for Kennedy and SP hopeful Clare Daly. Sargant is no longer GP leader.

Likely candidates:
FF Kennedy, O’Brien
FG Reilly, Alan Farrell
LP Brendan Ryan, Tom Kelleher
GP Sargant
OTH Daly

Projection based on poll
FF 10.1%
FG 23.1% 1 seat
LP 22.4% 1 seat
GP 14.4% 1 seat
SF 8.0%
OTH 22.1% 1 seat

FF lose both seats, one to LP and the other to SP, but Sargant holds on (in part on FF transfers).

Dublin NC (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 44.0% 1 seat – Sean Haughey
FG 25.6% 1 seat – Richard Bruton
LP 7.3%
GP 5.2%
SF 3.8%
OTH 14.2% 1 seat – Finian McGrath

Local developments:
An area around Edenmore (pop. c. 2,750) arrives from NE. Callelly gone. McGrath has been like Italy during WWII, and is at least ending the phoney war on the winning side – former GP candidate Browen Maher now in the LP

Likely candidates:
FF Haughey
FG Bruton , Naoise O’Muiri
LP Aodhan O’Riordan
OTH McGrath, John Lyons (ULA)

Projection based on poll
FF 10.2%
FG 34.0% 1 seat
LP 20.2% 1 seat
GP 4.1%
SF 10.8%
OTH 20.7% 1 seat

LP take a seat from FF, ending the Haughey dynasty.

Dublin NE (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 39.7% 1 seat – Michael Woods
FG 22.9% 1 seat – Terence Flanagan
LP 15.2% 1 seat – Tommy Broughan
GP 6.7%
SF 13.3%
OTH 2.1%

Local developments:
As mentioned above, new area in Portmarnock, but losing voters in Edenmore. Killian Forde has left SF for LP, but failed to get the nomination ahead of Broughan and Sean Kenny (the ticket that took 2 seats in 1992!).

Likely candidates:
FF Martin Brady
FG Flanagan
LP Broughan, Kenny
GP David Healy
SF Larry O’Toole
OTH Brian Greene (ULA)

Projection based on poll
FF 7.7%
FG 29.0% 1 seat
LP 32.9% 1 seat
GP 4.9%
SF 21.1% 1 seat
OTH 4.3%

Veteran SF campaigner Larry O’Toole takes the seat vacated by Michael Woods. Sean Kenny would be the runner up, and could be expected to do well on transfers, but SF too close to a quota to catch on these figures.

Dublin NW (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 48.8% 2 seats – Pat Carey, Noel Ahern
FG 10.0%
LP 20.3% 1 seat – Roisin Shorthall
GP 2.8%
SF 15.7%
OTH 2.4%

Local developments:
Apparently worried that Bill Tormey doesn’t send out the appropriate image for FG in DNW, they have added Clontarf-based LM Gerry Breen to the ticket, which should be good for a laugh, and may see Tormey having at least the bragging rights of being the leading FG candidate after the election. LP have added John Lyons to a ticket that will be aiming for 2 seats.

Likely candidates:
FF Carey, Ahern
FG Tormey, Breen
LP Shorthall, Lyons
SF Dessie Ellis
OTH John O’Neill (Ind Soc)

Projection based on poll
FF 11.6%
FG 16.5%
LP 39.6% 2 seats
GP 1.8%
SF 24.9% 1 seat
OTH 5.7%

FF lose both seats, one to SF and the other to LP.

Dublin S (5 seats)
2007 result
FF 41.3% 2 seats – Seamus Brennan, Tom Kitt
FG 27.3% 2 seats – Olivia Mitchell, Alan Shatter
LP 10.4%
GP 11.1% 1 seat – Eamon Ryan
SF 3.0%
OTH 6.9%

Local developments:
Seamus Brennan has passed away, and politically George Lee came and did the same. Tom Kitt insists that he is retiring. A re-drawing of the constituency has seen a largely (upper) middle class area (pop c. 11,700) move in from Dun Laoghaire, and speculation persists that one of the FF TDs will follow it, although both Andrews and Hanafin deny it to date.

Likely candidates:
FF Maria Corrigan +(poss) a TD from D/L or DSW
FG Mitchell, Shatter, + AN Other
LP Alex White, & (probably) Lettie McCarthy
GP Ryan

Projection based on poll
FF 10.3% 1 seat
FG 38.9% 2 seats
LP 28.1% 2 seats
GP 9.9%
SF 8.2%
OTH 4.6%

FF marginally hold one of their seats, with the other and GP seats both going to LP, although Ryan could hold off the challenge and take the one Govt seat that appears to be here on these figures, particularly if he does OK on SF and OTH transfers. He could conceivably be caught by SF however, so he’ll take cold comfort from these figures (if he’s reading them, that is!)

Dublin SC (5 seats)
2007 result
FF 33.1% 2 seats – Sean Ardagh, Michael Mulcahy
FG 14.4% 1 seat – Catherine Byrne
LP 21.1% 1 seat – Mary Upton
GP 5.8%
SF 10.2% 1 seat – Aengus O’Snodaigh
OTH 15.5%

Local developments:
Sean Ardagh is retiring, as is Mary Upton, whose nephew Henry, son of the late Pat Upton, will join Eric Byrne (very narrow loser here in ’07) and Micahel Conaghan as LP try to pull off 3 seats. Their biggest difficulty is likely to be ULA cllr Joan Collins, who will be supported by former opponent Brid Smith of the SWP/PBP.

Likely candidates:
FF Mulcahy
FG Byrne, Ruairi McGinley
LP Byrne, Upton, Conaghan
GP Oisin O’hAlmhain
SF O’Snodaigh
OTH Collins (ULA)

Projection based on poll
FF 2.7%
FG 18.9% 1 seats
LP 40.5% 2 seats
GP 4.0%
SF 15.6% 1 seats
OTH 18.3% 1 seats

FF lose both seats, one to LP, who narrowly lose out to Joan Collins for the last seat. Still, a sign of the times that they would go from narrowly missing a second seat to narrowly missing a third. No doubt this would be a happy outcome for Collins, who was expelled from LP when in the Militant Tendency.

Dublin SE (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 28.7% 1 seat – Chris Andrews
FG 18.6% 1 seat – Lucinda Creighton
LP 16.7% 1 seat – Ruairi Quinn
GP 13.8% 1 seat – John Gormley
SF 4.7%
OTH 17.4%

Local developments:
Michael McDowell has retired, having got his cards from the electorate. Gormley has become GP leader.

Likely candidates:
FF Andrews
FG Creighton, Eoghan Murphy
LP Quinn, Kevin Humphries
GP Gormley
SF Daithi O’Doolan
OTH Mannix Flynn, Annette Mooney (ULA)

Projection based on poll
FF 11.6%
FG 26.5% 1 seat
LP 31.1% 2 seats
GP 12.2% 1 seat
SF 8.5%
OTH 10.1%

On these figures, Gormely pips Andrews to the last seat, as whichever of them pulls ahead of the other would have enough Govt transfers to take the seat, with LP taking the seat dropped by Andrews, in part on SF transfers.

Dublin SW (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 39.3% 2 seats – Conor Lenihan, Charlie O’Connor
FG 20.0% 1 seat – Brian Hayes
LP 20.0% 1 seat – Pat Rabbitte
GP 3.7%
SF 12.2%
OTH 4.8%

Local developments:
Rabbitte is no longer LP leader. None of the last 3 poll toppers were elected here in the following election, which may cause Conor Lenihen some anxiety, and he is reputedly seeking to run in Dub Sth.

Likely candidates:
FF O’Connor, Lenihan
FG Hayes
LP Rabitte, Eamon Maloney
SF Sean Crowe
OTH Mick Murphy (SP/ULA)

Projection based on poll
FF 7.1%
FG 26.6% 1 seat
LP 30.0% 2 seats
GP 2.7%
SF 22.8% 1 seat
OTH 10.9%

Collapse in FF vote, sees LP and SF gain a seat each.

Dublin W (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 37.5% 1 seat – Brian Lenihan
FG 20.4% 1 seat – Leo Varadkar
LP 17.1% 1 seat – Joan Burton
GP 3.8%
SF 4.8%
OTH 16.5%

Local developments:
Brian Lenihan’s health problems are likely to result in a sympathy vote, and so I’ve increased the base FF vote in the spreadsheet to 50%. Joe Higgins will run, following his successful foray in the recent EP elections. LP only allowed their selection convention pick one candidate (Joan Burton) and so the running mate chosen might not be Patrick Nulty. An additional seat, with voters moved in from Swords from Dublin North.

Likely candidates:
FF Lenihan
FG Varadkar, Kieran Dennison
LP Burton + AN Other
SF Paul Donnelly
OTH Higgins (SP/ULA)

Projection based on poll
FF 11.6%
FG 20.7% 1 seat
LP 35.9% 2 seats
GP 1.0%
SF 9.6%
OTH 21.2% 1 seat

Lenihen appears to be in serious trouble, given the positive adjustment made to the FF base vote. On this, he’d lose his seat, with this and the additional seat going to LP2 and SP.

Dun Laoghaire (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 34.9% 2 seats – Mary Hanafin, Barry Andrews
FG 23.6% 1 seat – Sean Barrett
LP 16.0% 1 seat – Eamon Gilmore
GP 7.7% 1 seat – Ciaran Cuffe
SF 2.2%
OTH 15.7%

Local developments:
One less seat to go round with the boundary review, and a chunk of the consitiuency (largely FG, FF and PD voting) has left for Dub Sth. Eamon Gilmore has become LP leader, and has a high profile running mate in Ivana Bacik, who will challenge strongly for a seat, although FG’s Mary Mitchell-O’Connor and ULA’s Richard Boyd-Barrett will both be hopeful of beating her to it. 3 Ministers in Hanafin, Barry Andrews and Ciaran Cuffe are all up against it, although Hanafin or Andrews may yet stand in Dublin South

Likely candidates:
FF Hanafin and/or Andrews (although if FF are still south of 25% when the election is announced, expect one of them to jump)
FG Barrett, Mitchell-O’Connor
LP Gilmore, Bacik
GP Cuffe
OTH Richard Boyd-Barrett (SWP/ULA)

Projection based on poll
FF 13.2%
FG 30.2% 1 seat
LP 31.0% 2 seat
GP 6.1%
SF 6.0%
OTH 13.5% 1 seat

FF running both TDs lose both, one to LP and one to the constituency revision, with RBB taking Cuffe’s seat. While FG would fancy their chances, there appear to be insufficient transfers for them to take the seat, with GP and SF voters likely to lean left with their preferences, and FF unlikely to go anywhere in particular.

Galway E (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 39.7% 2 seats – Noel tracey, Michael Kitt
FG 39.1% 2 seats – Paul Connaughton, Ulick Burke
LP 3.1%
GP 1.9%
SF 3.2%
OTH 13.0%

Local developments:
FG TDs Paul Connaghton and Ulick Burke have both announced thier retirements, and so interim “let’s get this party ended” PD leader Ciaran Cannon seems likely to be in the next Dail. Paddy McHugh is unlikely to run, but another indo (Sean Canney) is likely to take his place on the ticket.

Likely candidates:
FF Treacy, Kitt
FG 4 from Cannon, John Barton, Tom McHugh, Paul Connaughton, Jimmy McClern
LP Colin Keaveny, Lorraine Higgins
OTH Canney

Projection based on poll
FF 12.7%
FG 50.9% 2 seats
LP 11.2% 1 seats
GP 1.3%
SF 8.6%
OTH 15.3% 1 seats

A tough one to call, given the multiplicity of candidates, but I have SF and GP transfers pushing LP1 ahead of FF and FG3, to see him/her join Canney and 2 FG TDs returned to the Dail. Poor internal LP transfers would hand their seat to FG3 (whoever that is….)

Galway W (5 seats)
2007 result
FF 37.1% 2 seats – Eamon O’Cuiv, Frank Fahey
FG 20.4% 1 seat – Padraig McCormack
LP 11.1% 1 seat – Michael D
GP 5.5%
SF 3.0%
OTH 23.0% 1 seat – Noel Grealish (PD)

Local developments:
Noel Grealish is now an Indo. Michael D and Padraig McC won’t run, and Margaret Cox looks unlikely to stand – I’ve added most of her vote to the FF base figures.

Likely candidates:
FF O Cuiv, Fahey, Crowe
FG Fidelma Healy-Eames, Brian Walsh, Sean Kyne, Seosamh Ó Laoi
LP Derek Nolan
GP Niall O’Brollachain
OTH Grealish, Catherine Connolly, Eamonn Walsh, Mike Cubbard

Projection based on poll
FF 8.6% (yes, yes, I know….)
FG 30.3% 2 seats
LP 17.5% 1 seat
GP 5.0%
SF 8.6%
OTH 30.0% 2 seats

On these figures, a uniform swing would see FF lose both seats, one to FG and the other to Indo Connolly. Of course, this may be an area they overperform their national result, but if so they’ve less votes elsewhere making up that 14%.

Kerry N – W Limerick (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 31.3% 1 seat – Tom McEllistrom
FG 32.3% 1 seat – Jimmy Deenihan
LP 10.9%
GP 1.9%
SF 20.4% 1 seat – Martin Ferris
OTH 3.2%

Local developments:
Boundary changes are significnat enough to warrant a name change for the old Kerry Nth – and area with a population of c.5,000 moves to kerry Sth, with a chunk of Western Limericak (pop. c. 13,000) moves intot he new constituency. Arthur Spring seeking to bring a third generation of the dynasty to Kerry North

Likely candidates:
FF McEllistrom, Norma Foley
FG Deenihan, John Sheahan
LP Spring
SF Ferris

Projection based on poll
FF 11.9%
FG 35.6% 1 seats
LP 14.0% 1 seats
GP 1.5%
SF 32.1% 1 seats
OTH 4.9%

Not alone do FF lose a seat, but on these figures LP only take that seat on SF surplus votes, from FG2. Closer than Uncle Richard would like, I think….

Kerry S (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 40.7% 1 seat – John O’Donoghue
FG 25.1% 1 seat -Tom sheahan
LP 13.5%
GP 1.9%
SF 3.5%
OTH 15.4% 1 seat – Jackie Healy-Rae

Local developments:
As mentioned above, new voters arrive from Kerry Nth. The cap is being passed on to the next generation, with Michael Healy-Rae standing in his father’s stead. There are rumours of another Indo standing to test how much of that vote will stay in the family fold, and there has been suggestions that Toireasa Ferris might move south to contest this constituency for SF. LP have decided against a dynastic candidate, by fielding a non-Moynihan, and it will be interesting to see how much of that vote was LP.

Likely candidates:
FF O’Donoghue
FG Sheahan, Seamus FitzGerald
LP Marie Maloney
SF Lynn Ni Bhaoigheallain or Toireasa Ferris
OTH Michael Healy-Rae

Projection based on poll
FF 16.6%
FG 30.3% 1 seat
LP 19.4% 1 seat
GP 1.6%
SF 9.1%
OTH 23.0% 1 seat

LP re-take the seat, at the expense(s) of the Bull O’Donoghue.

Kildare N (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 39.5% 2 seats – Aine Brady, Michael Fitzpatrick
FG 21.2% 1 seat – Bernard Durkan
LP 17.4% 1 seat – Emmet Stagg
GP 4.9%
SF 2.4%
OTH 14.5%

Local developments:
A small transfer of population (c.1,300) to Kildare Sth. Michael FitzPatrick has been seriously ill for some time, but he has been reported as seeking re-election.

Likely candidates:
FF Brady , Fitzpatrick
FG Durkan, Anthony Lawlor
LP Stagg, John McGinley
SF Martin Kelly
OTH Catherine Murphy

Projection based on poll
FF 6.6%
FG 30.0% 1 seats
LP 31.0% 2 seats
GP 4.0%
SF 7.3%
OTH 21.1% 1 seat

FF lose both seats, one to LP and one to Murphy. SF transfers are enough to ward off FG’s ambitions for a 2nd seat.

Kildare S (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 50.4% 2 seats – Sean Power, Sean O’Fearghal
FG 17.2%
LP 20.7% 1 seat – Jack Wall
GP 6.2%
SF 0.0%
OTH 5.6%

Local developments:
Former Minister Sean Power has tried to put some distance between himself and the FF leadership. Jack Wall has stoutly resisted to date having to accept a running mate, and is believed to be hoping to pass the seat on to his son the following election. FG loking to win back a seat here for the first time since Alan Dukes was their local man.

Likely candidates:
FF Power, O’Fearghal
FG Martin Heydon
LP Wall + AN Other
OTH Paddy Kennedy

Projection based on poll
FF 25.5% 1 seat
FG 26.1% 1 seat
LP 32.8% 1 seat
GP 6.3%
SF 4.3%
OTH 5.0%

FG take a seat from FF (as expected by most, I think).

Laois-Offaly (5 seats)
2007 result
FF 56.4% 3 seats – Brian Cowen, Sean Fleming, John Maloney
FG 27.4% 2 seats – Olywn Enwright, Charlie Flanagan
LP 2.4%
GP 1.1%
SF 5.1%
OTH 8.6%

Local developments:
A population of c.4,000 in Roscrea is moved from here to Tipp Nth. Big leaders bonus here for Brian Cowen. LP will be hoping that the poor LP track record here since Pat Gallagher quit politics will be reversed by their selection of former Leinster Express editor John Whelan, although the local row this provoked may not help him, whatever Oscar Wilde said about bad publicity…… FG lose Olywn Enright and got almost exactly their national average vote here last time, but are talking up their chances of a third seat.

Likely candidates:
FF Cowen, Fleming, Maloney, John Foley
FG Flanagan, Liam Quinn, Marcella Corcoran-Kennedy
LP Whelan
SF Brian Stanley
OTH John Leahy, Eddie FitzPatrick

Projection based on poll
FF 32.7% 2 seats
FG 38.1% 2 seats
LP 8.3%
GP 0.9%
SF 13.7% 1 seat
OTH 6.4%

FF lose a seat, with SF looking the best placed to take advantage, although LP and FG3 would push hard for it also.

Limerick City (4 seats – reduced from 5 when Limerick East)
2007 result
FF 48.7% 2 seats – Willie O’Dea, Peter Power
FG 25.5% 2 seats – Micahel Noonan, Kieran O’Donnell
LP 10.3% 1 seat – Jan O’Sullivan
GP 2.6%
SF 4.2%
OTH 8.6%

Local developments:
Drops a seat and renamed from Limerick East, with FG-friendly rural wards (pop. c.17,000) deserting Kieran O’Donnell for the County. Willie O’Dea now hoping his removal from cabinet over slandering SF candidate Maurice Quinlivan will distance him from the Govt, and Quinlivan will doubtless be hoping that the trick of winning a court case will give him the sort of boost that helped Pearse Doherty. Both FF and FG may end up dropping a seat, with their better long-term bets (in Power and O’Donnell) losing out to men who probably will be contesting their final GE, and Jan O’Sullivan may have to split her vote generously if she is to pull in running mate Joe Leddin.

Likely candidates:
FF O’Dea, Power
FG Noonan, O’Donnell
LP O’Sullivan, Joe Leddin
SF Maurice Quinlivan
OTH Cian Prendeville (ULA)

Projection based on poll
FF 13.4%
FG 36.5% 2 seats
LP 31.4% 2 seats
GP 2.2%
SF 10.6%
OTH 5.8%

Well, hard to accept for some, but if FF are on a third of their ’07 vote, they are going to be down at least that in urban areas, and more so if the swing is lower in the rural constituencies (which most ppl argue will be the case). This puts both FF TDs out here, one at the expense of LP, and the other as part of the revision, with O’Donnell holding on.

Limerick County (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 47.2% 2 seats – John Cregan, Niall Collins
FG 39.9% 1 seat – Dan Nevillle
LP 5.6%
GP 2.4%
SF 0.0%
OTH 4.8%

Local developments:
Gains a bit from Limerick East, and loses a bit to Kerry North. The third seat has done funny things here over the years, going to the PDs, and going to FG2 on one occasion as a result of IND FF candidates splitting the FF vote oddly once, and young LP candidate James Heffernan, who polled very well in the ’09 LEs will be hoping to provide the surprise here this time.

Likely candidates:
FF Cregan, Collins
FG Neville, William O’Donnell and/or Patrick O’Donovan
LP James Heffernan

Projection based on poll
FF 22.0% 1 seats
FG 50.6% 2 seats
LP 17.9%
GP 2.5%
SF 3.9%
OTH 3.0%

Not Heffernan’s day on these figures- FF short of a quota, but close enough to hold one of their 2 seats, and FG have enough votes to take the other.

Longford-Westmeath (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 41.2% 2 seats – Mary O’Rourke, Peter Kelly
FG 30.9% 1 seat, James “Bonkers” Bannon
LP 17.7% 1 seat, Willie Penrose
GP 1.7%
SF 3.9%
OTH 4.6%

Local developments:
Former PD TD, Longford-based Mae Sexton, has provoked deja-vu among those who remember Helena McAuliffe Ennis, and apoplexy among others, by joining LP, and is well placed to take Peter Kelly’s seat if it stays in Longford, although FG have high hopes that Nicky McFadden will bring it across the county line to Westmeath.

Likely candidates:
FF O’Rourke, Kelly, Robert Troy
FG Bannon, McFadden, Peter Burke
LP Penrose, Sexton
SF Paul Hogan
OTH Mark Casey

Projection based on poll
FF 17.4% 1 seats
FG 36.1% 1 seats
LP 33.6% 2 seats
GP 1.6%
SF 9.0%
OTH 2.2%

Close, but the addition of gender and county balance to the LP ticket here should be enough to take a second seat, even if the 3 FG candidates take a higher FPV, given the SF transfers that will be on offer.

Louth (5 seats)
2007 result
FF 42.1% 2 seats – Dermot Ahern, Seamus “T” Kirk
FG 29.4% 1 seat – Fergus O’Dowd
LP 5.0%
GP 7.6%
SF 15.0% 1 seat – Arthur Morgan
OTH 0.9%

Local developments:
Hardly anything here really…. 😉 Dermot Ahern and Arthur Morgan are retiring, Seamus Kirk won’t be on the ballot as Ceann Comhairle, Gerry Adams seeks a seat in a national parliament (that he’d take) for the first time, LP looking to take the seat that Michael Bell held in the 80s, assisted not just by a Gilmore Gale but also a large chunk of Meath adjacent to Drogheda (pop. c.17,500) which perviously voted LP in large measure and which Drogheda based Ged Nash will be hoping will seal the deal for him.

Likely candidates:
FF James Carroll, Declan Breathnach
FG O’Dowd +1
LP Nash, (poss.+ 1 Dundalk based candidate)
GP Mark Deary
SF Adams

Projection based on poll
FF 6.1% 1 seat (CC)
FG 36.8% 2 seats
LP 12.4% 1 seat
GP 6.4%
SF 30.5% 1 seat
OTH 7.8%

FF lose Ahern’s seat to the northenn based FG candidate, with LP picking up the extra seat in the Southern end of the constituency. Adams romps home.

Mayo (5 seats)
2007 result
FF 24.5% 1 seat – Dara Calleary
FG 53.8% 3 seats – Enda Kenny, Michael Ring, John O’Mahoney
LP 1.2%
GP 0.8%
SF 5.0%
OTH 14.7% 1 seat – Beverly Cooper-Class Act-Flynn

Local developments:
We need more politicians with convictions, they say, but they’re losing one here, with the retirement of Beverly Cooper-Flynn – much to the relief, one imagines, of Dara Calleary who should now be safe. FG leader Enda Kenny will again try for the feat of a 4th seat that they weren’t a million miles off last time, but will be hampered by the decision of ex Indo TD Dr Jerry Cowley to join a surging LP, and also any Adams Avalanche. Ex-LP member and Indo cllr Michael Kilcoyne may be the wild card here, although the smart money would appear to have him kingmaker in a battle between LP and SF for the final seat.

Likely candidates:
FF Calleary + AN Other
FG Kenny, Ring, O’Mahoney + Michelle Mulherin
LP Cowley
OTH Kilcoyne

Projection based on poll
FF 16.3% 1 seats
FG 57.3% 3 seats
LP 7.6%
SF 11.7% 1 seats
OTH 7.2%

FG4 loses out the the last leftist standing, SF on these figures, although a decent LP-to-FG transfer would see them pull it off.

Meath E (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 43.6% 2 seats, Mary Wallace, Thomas Byrne
FG 25.9% 1 seat – Shane McEntee
LP 11.9%
GP 3.1%
SF 3.9%
OTH 11.6%

Local developments:
The constituency loses the chunk to Louth and gains c.6.750 votes around Kells from Meath W, dropping the LP vote a percentage point or two. FF will no doubt be hoping that if they hold a seat here, it will be the up and coming Byrne, and not Mary Wallace, who it is rumoured is being leant on by HQ to retire

Likely candidates:
FF Byrne + poss. Wallace
FG McEntee, Regina Doherty
LP Dominic Hannigan
SF Michael Gallagher

Projection based on poll
FF 12.0%
FG 41.3% 2 seats
LP 23.6% 1 seats
GP 2.6%
SF 10.0%
OTH 10.5%

FF lose both seats, one each to FG and LP.

Meath W (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 51.6% Noel Dempsey, Johnny Brady
FG 29.0% Damien English
LP 4.0%
GP 2.5%
SF 11.3%
OTH 1.6%

Local developments:
Loses Kells to Meath E. This combined with the retirement of Noel Dempsey is expected to give a boost to Navan-based Jenny McHugh who lives in that town and is principal of a local National School. FG and SF both have high hopes here also, with the latter talking up new canididate Peadar Toibin’s chances. Famously, FG supporter Sarah Carey just before the ’07 election said that if Graeme Geraghty ran for the Communist Party in Meath he would be elected, however he ran for FG and got 3%, so perhaps the marxist left will take a seat here in 2011.

Likely candidates:
FF Johnny Brady, Shane Cassells
FG English, Catherine Yore
LP Jenny McHugh
SF Toibin

Projection based on poll
FF 13.1%
FG 39.7% 1 seat
LP 15.5% 1 seat
GP 1.8%
SF 21.4% 1 seat
OTH 8.5%

FF lose both seats, one to LP and the other to SF, although less than 1% between McHugh and Yore in the final count on this projection, and so very much in the margin of error.

Roscommon S Leitrim (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 38.8% 1 seat – Michael Finneran
FG 39.1% 2 seats, Frank Feighen, Denis Naughton
LP 1.8%
GP 1.8%
SF 8.4%
OTH 10.1%

Local developments:
A population of c.3,400 moves from the Leitrim part of this constituency to Sligo-N.Leitrim. Michael Finneran has surprised many by announcing his retirement. Indo candidate John Kelly did very well here in ’07, polling 10%, and LP will hope that his running under their banner will see them pull off an historic seat here. SF however got 4 times as many votes as their candidate last time, and if SF do very well this time, they will be hard to beat. Add to the mix Luke “Ming” Flanagan, who was elected in Kelly’s ward (alebeit with a much lower vote) in ’09, and who is Roscommon’s Mayor, a certain FG seat, a very likely FG 2nd seat, the locally resented partition of Leitrim, and FF hoping to hold on to what was Finneran’s seat, and this could be a long – and contested count.

Likely candidates:
FF ?
FG Feighen, Naughton
LP Kelly
OTH Flanagan

Projection based on poll
FF 15.3%
FG 45.1% 2 seats
LP 10.7%
GP 1.6%
SF 17.1% 1 seats
OTH 10.1%

Finneran may have known something …. FF lose their seat here to SF, who hold off a strong challenge from Kelly who manages to stay ahead of Flanagan, and receive decent transfers from his local rival, but SF are just too far ahead on these figures.

Sligo N Leitrim (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 41.0% 2 seats – Eamon Scanlon, Jimmy Devins
FG 39.3% 1 seat – John Perry
LP 3.9%
GP 3.0%
SF 11.7%
OTH 1.1%

Local developments:
Again there are local resentments about the partitiion of Leitrim between two constituencies unlikely to return a TD from that county. Here the two FF TDs are, somewhat bizarrely, not taking the FF whip, but voting with the government on every issue. Jimmy Devins is unlikely to run again, leaving the task of holding the FF seat to his fellow “rebel” (ahem) Eamon Scanlon. FG2 will be hopeful of taking a seat, as will LP’s Susan O’Keefe, who polled respectably in Ireland-West in the Euros, but SF will consider themselves favourites to take a seat in this constituency if there is a surge to their party, particulary as they got a decent vote here even when polling 1-2% nationally. The dark horse will be Declan Bree, if he runs (reputedly under the ULA banner), having taken a seat in the Sping Tide for LP, but since cast aside his Tankie principals for an alliance dominated by Trotskyists.

Likely candidates:
FF Eamon Scanlan
FG Perry, McLaughlin
LP Susan O’Keefe
SF Michael Colreavy
OTH Declan Bree, Gabriel McSharry , Michael Clarke

Projection based on poll
FF 16.2%
FG 44.1% 2 seats
LP 9.6%
GP 2.5%
SF 20.2% 1 seat
OTH 7.3%

FF lose both of their non-seats, one to FG and the other to SF.

Tipperary N (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 34.3% 1 seat – Maire Hocter
FG 15.9% 1 seat – Noel Coonan
LP 10.3%
GP 1.1%
SF 3.8%
OTH 34.7% 1 seat – Michael Lowry

Local developments:
Lowry Country. More? Oh, well Alan Kelly is running for LP, and so a rainforest of leaflets promoting him should go through the local letterboxes. But other than that, no, sorry. I’ve got nothing.

Likely candidates:
FF Hocter, Michael Smith (jnr)
FG Coonan
LP Alan Kelly
OTH Michael Lowry

Projection based on poll
FF 12.5%
FG 21.8% 1 seat
LP 14.7% 1 seat
GP 0.8%
SF 8.9%
OTH 41.4% 1 seat

FF lose a seat to LP, although if Lowry had a running mate he’d probably take him/her in with him instead.

Tipperary S (3 seats)
2007 result
FF 46.4% 2 seats – Mattie McGrath, Martin Manseragh
FG 21.1% 1 seat Tom Hayes
LP 8.8%
GP 1.5%
SF 3.1%
OTH 19.1%

Local developments:
Mattie McGrath. Mattie McGrath. Did I mention Mattie McGrath?

Likely candidates:
FF Manseragh
FG Hayes, Michael Murphy
LP Phil Prendergast
SF Michael Brown
OTH Mattie McGrath (IFF), Seamus Healy (ULA)

Projection based on poll
FF 15.9%
FG 25.7% 1 seats
LP 13.6%
GP 1.2%
SF 8.3%
OTH 35.4% 2 seats

Well, a hard one to call, given we don’t even know who McGrath will run for, but I’m calling it him, ULA and FG, with LP getting ahead of Manseragh on transfers but just too far behind.

Waterford (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 46.4% 2 seats – Martin Cullen, Brendan Keaneally
FG 27.4% 1 seat – John Deasy
LP 11.3% 1 seat – Brian O’Shea
GP 2.1%
SF 6.7%
OTH 6.0%

Local developments:
Martin Cullen has retired, and FG have high hopes for Paudge Coffey to take his seat. This appears to be an exception to the LP rule where sitting TD will be required to have a running mate although if ex-WP cllr John Halligan signed up I could see him added to the ticket

Likely candidates:
FF Kenneally
FG Deasy, Paudie Coffey
LP O’Shea
SF David Cullinane
OTH John Halligan, Joe Conway

Projection based on poll
FF 11.0%
FG 37.7% 2 seats
LP 20.6% 1 seats
GP 1.4%
SF 14.2% 1 seats
OTH 15.0%

FF lose both seats, one to FG and the other to SF.

Wexford (5 seats)
2007 result
FF 42.2% 2 seats – Sean Connick, John Browne
FG 31.6% 2 seats -Paul Kehoe, Michael D’arcy
LP 13.4% 1 seat Brendan Howlin
GP 1.2%
SF 7.4%
OTH 3.9%

Local developments:
Contrary to earlier rumours, I’m now told that ex-SF candidate John Dwyer will be running as an Independent left-wing candidate, rather than hitch his wagon to the ULA. The outcome here could depend on whether Brendan Howlin splits his vote, as otherwise his running mate Pat Cody could lose out to SF, Dwyer or, conceivably, FG3. FF got just over their national vote here last time, and so require a significant recovery if Browne and Connick are to be doing more than fighting over a single seat.

Likely candidates:
FF Connick, Browne
FG Kehoe, Darcy, Liam Twoomey
LP Howlin, Cody
SF Anthony Kelly
OTH John Dwyer (IND), Seamus O’Brien (ULA)

Projection based on poll
FF 17.8% 1 seat
FG 38.3% 2 seats
LP 23.7% 1 seat
GP 1.7%
SF 11.0% 1 seat
OTH 7.5%

FF lose a seat to SF, who edges ahead of Cody (LP) and FG3 on OTH transfers. I’d not write off Dwyer though, and if he holds on to more of the SF vote than I’ve given him here, he could be in the running also.

Wicklow (5 seats)
2007 result
FF 38.0% 2 seats – Dick Roche, Joe Behan
FG 23.2% 2 seats – Andrew Doyle, Billy Timmons
LP 16.3% 1 seat – Liz McManus
GP 7.4%
SF 5.0%
OTH 10.1%

Local developments:
Joe Behan has since reigned from FF in protest over the early phase of the cuts, although since then has supported much harsher measures, and might decide against running again. Liz McManus has retired, and her son didn’t make it on the 3 person ticket that seems well balanced in terms of geography. The probable absence of Deirdre De Burca will be another factor, and SF members here have been talking up their chances.

Likely candidates:
FF Dick Roche +1
FG Doyle, Timmons, Simon Harris
LP Anne Ferris, Tom Fortune, Conal Kavanagh
SF John Brady
OTH Joe Behan?, Robert Kearns

Projection based on poll
FF 6.8%
FG 33.8% 2 seats
LP 27.2% 2 seats
GP 6.6%
SF 12.5% 1 seat
OTH 13.0%

FF lose both the Roche and Behan seats, to LP and SF, although Behan if he runs would challenge SF strongly for the last seat on these figures.




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January 8, 2011 at 2:03 am

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  2. Excellent analysis.

    Willie O’Dea has a serious problem with this figures.

    Hard to know how he can up his game.He is already on maximum attendance at funerals,Masses, OAP parties etc while people are sick of him knocking on their doors at this stage. Its down to his buddies in the Limerick media to dig him out of this hole at this stage.


    January 8, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    • I think it’ll be very close with him – he may still buck the trend, but as you say, being familiar doesn’t always deliver the votes. If the party has the votes, it generally means you get the lion’s share of them, but it rarely produces a vote for a party where none exists in the first place.

      He also has the problem that what vote there is for Power may not transfer as well to him, and may go to O’Donnell in reasonable numbers, which could be what knocks him out. LP2 seems OK here with SF transfers (unless SF get closer to LP2) so last seat does appear to be between O’Donnell and O’Dea.


      January 8, 2011 at 4:35 pm

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  4. Two mistakes I spotted in candidate names:
    Dublin South: it’s Lettie McCarthy (not sure that she’s actually selected yet – it may still be between her and Aidan Culhane)
    Galway West: it’s Fidelma Healy-Eames


    January 8, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    • Cheers Keith clumsiness in each case, they are typed into an OpenOffice spreadsheet and I find it hard to review for editing …. I may review how to generate the template as it didn’t save as much time as I’d hoped!

      Re Dub Sth, my understanding is that she’s the likely candidate alright (LP contact), which would be rough on Aidan who is a good guy, but I suppose they’ve done their own polling


      January 8, 2011 at 4:32 pm

      • I think there’s a DubSth decision to be made during the next week from Labour.

        Keep up the good work – really enjoy reading the analysis!


        January 9, 2011 at 2:28 pm

  5. Laois-Offaly. The FG team is so weak that it now looks that SF who have only 1 County Councillor in all of Laois & Offaly is going to take a seat from FF and no gain for FG.

    While the FG councillors on the ground here have made great inroads over the past 10 years the negative stranglehold by the Enright and Flanagan camps to stimy any potential treat to their fiefdoms has ensured that one might get a Council seat but no further that that will you go.

    So while FG has made massive strides into the FF vote at the local elections since 1999 the opposite is the case when it comes to the GEs.

    So with FG now the largest party on the combined Councils this is how it reads

    Combined – Laois Offaly Council Seats L.E. June 2009

    FG 18
    FF 17
    Indp 9
    Lab 1
    SF 1

    Mind boggling to work out that FG with 18 seats are going to chalk up no gain here in Laois-Offaly while SFs one Councillor is going to take a Dail seat.

    Having been on Laois CC (04-09) I am aware that there is nasty elements at play in FG to keep down young articulate members from getting a look in. Should they succeed FG will eventually be poisioned from within its ranks just like what happened to FF.

    Michael Moloney

    Michael Moloney

    January 8, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    • Michael,

      Many thanks, very interesting perspective on L/O (as always!). Out of interest, do you think LP can recover from the bad publicity of how they chose their candidate? It occurred to me that allowing their Offaly members select a running mate might bring some peace to the matter – would you say that would make sense (or any difference)?


      January 8, 2011 at 7:03 pm

      • For openers the 2007 GE result shows that Labour’s 2 candidstes in L-O obtained a grand total of 1,703 votes out of an electorate of 103,673 (valid poll 71,491.

        To this the fact that in the 2009 local election Labour’s only success on both Laois and Offaly County Councils was the seat won by Pat Bowe, who started his career as a FG Town Councillor, then as an Independent Town Councillor and only joined the Labour Party on the eve of the Locals 0f 2009.

        Pat’s success was on a personel vote basis and had little or nothing to do with his been on the Labour ticket.

        Compare and contrast his vote with that of Labour’s Jim O’Brien in the Portlaoise electoral area for the same election.

        Labour organisation in Laois and Offaly could not be described as a Constituency Organisation and outside of this small group the blood letting and bad publicity of Labour’s convention in December did not register and as such will not matter one whit when it comes to polling day.

        To a certain extent a chinese wall exists in Laois-Offaly when it comes to voting patters and for a party to ignore this fact when deciding election strategy is on the one hand fool hardy and on the other down right stupid and shows either ineptness or shot sightness selfishness on behalf of the prima doona candidate.

        Back in the 80s had PD Cathy Honan allowed a running mate on the ticket she would very likely have taken a seat.

        Like wise if Brian Stanley fails to take the seat that looks his now, in no small measure will his failure be of his own making.

        SF need at least three candidates in this election to grow its vote from 3656 (Electorate 103,673) to a quote. However such a strategy might see one of Stanley’s running mates taking the seat and him out in the cold & this is a no,no for Brian.

        Labour need a runner in each county but at the end of the day unless Gilmnore or Pat Rabbitte stands in Laois Offaly I cant see them making the cut.

        Finally, in the last few days, Joe Higgins was down in Tullamore meeting some of the disgruntled Labour members and he has let it be know that his group will have a candidate on the ballot paper.

        Michael Moloney

        Michael Moloney

        January 8, 2011 at 11:44 pm

        • Its unlikely to be down to stanley, SF are generally loath to try two candidate strategies, are where they have tried them they dont tend to work (connamara LEA 2009 for eg) Generally SF does not have the activist base nor the experience to make the transfers stick. I find carlow kilkenny 2 candidate strategy startling, but may be merited on the constituency. But SF would be very ill advised IMo to run with more than one candidate.

          Interesting about higgins.


          January 10, 2011 at 4:34 am

  6. thanks for that analysis Dotski
    2 points:
    John Mulvihill Senior is Sherlock’s running mate in Cork East, not Junior, not that it matters, cos i don’t agree with you that any Mulvihill will get a seat!!:-)
    If i recall correctly, at Bertie’s apogee, FF got 6 out of 10 seats in Cork City. It is quite incredible to think that at Cowen’s perigee, FF might get 0/9 seats in CNC and CSC!


    January 8, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    • Ta for the Snr/Jnr thing – I jsut assumed it was the younger given how old Snr must be now!

      I do suspect that FF will recover enough to take a seat in CSC – my own view is that they’ll recover to 18-19% nationally, which would see Martin scrape in – but CNC just appears to be unwinnable, looking at the figures.


      January 8, 2011 at 7:15 pm

      • Junior might have a better chance. one of the main reasons i have disagreed with your prediction of 2 Labour seats in Cork East is the weakness of Mulvihill senior as a candidate.

        i agree that FF will hold 1 seat in CSC, and think it will be Martin’s. its unfortunate for McGrath that he shares the constituency with Martin, as i feel he would have a strong future in politics if he got in this time, even as a potential FF leader, if they see the sense of skipping all the current cabinet as leadership contenders, and go for a young fresh face.

        I completely see the logic of your CNC prediction based on the numbers, but my gut, (not my heart!) just cannot agree. i think Kelleher will just about scrape in. His flyer arrived in the door during the week, and there were 2 interesting things about it.
        Firstly, no FF emblem, and just one mention of the party name, in small print (hardly surprising)
        Secondly, and more surprisingly, plain black and white printed paper. No colour, no glossy paper. We all know the party is in a tight spot financially, with a big debt, but this seems to be confirmation


        January 8, 2011 at 11:39 pm

        • Got the same leaflet from Kelleher in the door and I thought the exact same. I’m still not seeing many candidates in CNC calling to the doors!


          January 9, 2011 at 12:14 am

        • The Cork area will I think see some of the most fascinating contests, with about 33 realistic candidates chasing 20 seats. If Kelleher did get in, it would be pretty remarkable, hopefully your heart will be more accurate than your gut! 🙂


          January 9, 2011 at 3:12 am

  7. Excellent analysis dotski

    Being from the sligo/n leitrim constituency i would have to disagree with your predictions. Personally i think this will be one of the most closely fought constituencies in the country with the possibility of 6 candidates (scanlon FF, devins or sen.marc mcsharry FF, the 2 FG’ers, SF and Cllr Declan Bree) being within less than 2,000 votes of eachother

    The SF canditate is lietrim Cllr Michael Colreavy, one of only 2 leitrim candidates – the other, G Mcsharry(ind) ran in the same council constituency as him in 2009, so should transfer well to SF

    Both sitting FF td’s have said they will run but no official word yet. Scanlon will prob outpoll devins, however i think both will get over 5,000 votes each leaving FF at about 20%. Independent west sligo Cllr Michael Clarke (FF in all but name, so its not surprising to note he’s a convicted fraudster) intends to run. He failed to get elected as a councilor on 3 attempts with FF, but got 1,400(1.1 quota) in locals and will be transfer well to FF

    Angry scenes at FG selection convention when leitrim candidate Michael Comiskey was not selected on ticket, therefore their vote in leitrim will be well down on last time, probably benefiting SF. McLoughlan is a strong candidate but recently made a costly blunder on changing his mind over a highly controversial proposed bridge in sligo town, where he is based. Perry got 0.79 of a quota in 07 – cannot see him gaining much, if anything.Important to note FG were only 1% behind FF in 07, but were still along way off getting a second seat, where as FF comfortably got 2

    Selection of O’Keefe for LAB did not go down well with Sligo LAB councilors – expect LAB vote to increase, possibly double – still a long way off though

    Bree has to date, not yet confirmed if he will run, but has said he intends to. I think, but am not sure, he ran for the socialist party in the locals. Very popular in Sligo town, his vote was up in the locals, will do damage to SF, taking alot of Sean McManus’s personal vote in the town from the last GE

    Greens – running two candidates – needn’t mention

    My predictions
    FG 40% (1 Seat – cannot call who)
    FF 20% (Scanlon in on devins + clarke transfers)
    SF 15% (Elected on McSharry + left wing transfers)
    Bree (ULA) 12%
    LAB 6%
    Clarke (IND) 4%
    Mcsharry (IND) 3%


    January 8, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    • Cheers Mick, that’s a great piece on S/L. I’d heard that Devins wouldn’t run again from a local FFer, but I don’t think they are senior or anything so they may have been jumping the gun. If you hear any more on Bree let us know as I think while he may not be elected, he could put the cat among the pigeons to some extent if he runs.


      January 8, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    • Further to that above, my understanding is that a lot of the votes which went from south leitrim to north, were SF. Which is good for colreavy, not so good for Kenny.


      January 10, 2011 at 4:36 am

  8. […] stint as lord mayor last year, it would be a mistake not to run him. add to the posts above, that dotski's most recent analysis predicted 2 FG, 1 Lab, 1 SF. if he's predicting 1 Lab based on the last Red C poll, then 2 Lab is […]

  9. In Wicklow, it should be Billy Timmins not Godfrey Timmons.

    Godfrey has gone a few years now.


    January 15, 2011 at 3:49 am

  10. Very detailed

    Can I ask you where you got the breakdown. Do red c publish the polls by constituency

    It sure looks like FF are in for a hammering but I can’t see them staying that low. They will pull some rabbit from a hat, or the transfers won’t work out for LP and FG

    I’m in Meath east and FF have come back to 13 from 9. Now that Mary Wallace is gone and Byrne lives outside the constituency. They stand no chance. But they know how to run a campaign and could be at close to 20% when the last person is elected. If FG don’t get the transfers they could be in trouble


    January 18, 2011 at 12:21 am

    • Hi Seosamh,

      Its a projection based on a mathematical model I’ve developed over the years – certain constituencies may/will under perform or over perform the swing, but it should largely be accurate, and the deviations should cancel out.

      Meath E is an interesting constituency, there’s a clear FG and LP seat on current polling, but the 3rd seat looks set to be won by default – a strong Indo moving in – or BFG running again, could pull that 3rd seat.


      January 19, 2011 at 11:24 pm

  11. What happenet to Nicky Kelly in Wicklow ?


    February 9, 2011 at 8:11 pm

  12. It’s Ok,I see he didn’t get on the ticket,pity really ,would have done well this time out for Gilmore.


    February 9, 2011 at 8:17 pm

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